TGT - The Grant Tour/Top Gear Talk

[Snowman000]

PS: Skoda ze ten ucet je fake...

[doriftonigga]

Hodně lidí si fake účtu ani nevšimlo.

Čekám na oficiální stanovisko BBC.

[ctrl_j]

Ucet mozna fake je, ale Snickers mu to opravdu poslalo jestli vam jde o tohle…

[Snowman000]

Tak a je po vsetkom...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebri ... e-BBC.html

[Snowman000]

Tak aj spolutvorca a producent opusta TG, to by znamenalo len jedno
http://www.carthrottle.com/post/top-gea ... mmond-may/

[Snowman000]

The Story of Top Gear Telly
Part One: Getting to the Start Line

I can't remember exactly when it was, but around 2000 or 2001 the Controller of BBC2, Jane Root, had had enough of Top Gear and put a bullet through its head.

She’d watched the show plod on, each series looking more and more dated alongside new and fresh factual shows like Ground Force and that one where Handy Andy did houses up, and no attempt at perking up the dear old car show was having any effect. News of the show’s demise was met with sadness by a few, indifference by many more, but with intense interest from a tall curly-haired man who’d quit that very show a couple of years earlier. When Jeremy rang me and we met in the pub that lunchtime, he was already bouncing of the ceiling with enthusiasm for resuscitating the old corpse. In fact, he’d already mapped out some of the key elements: the new Top Gear would be anchored from a central place, with an audience, so that the presenters could talk to each other instead of presenting on item after another in isolation.

This studio base would also allow us to do a news section, so that important cars could be discussed without us being forced to shoot a film about them. Jeremy, like most 40-something chaps, had devoured Nick Hornby’s High Fidelity, and, if you too have read it, you’ll know how beautifully it illustrates the male brain’s love of lists and Top Fives. From there, it was only a small mental leap to having lap board, which in turn would require a track, which in turn meant we could film Italian supercars actually giving it what for instead of dithering around Cotswolds corners at 38mph. And since we had a track and a studio, why not get guests on and make them do a lap? One of us – we’d had a few by now, so I can’t remember who – then had this vision of a black-tie-clad Bryan Ferry hammering round in a small Hyundai or something equally un-Bryan Ferryish, and when we’d fnished laughing at that, the Star In a Reasonably Priced Car was born.

I contributed bits and bobs as we went along, but, in truth, Jeremy had already built the structure of the new Top Gear by the time he walked through the pub door.

And as I sit here now in April 2015, in a completely empty office, I think that faraway lunch absolutely encapsulates the tragedy of what the BBC has lost in getting rid of Jeremy. It hasn’t just lost a man who can hold viewers’ attention in front of a camera, it’s lost a journalist who could use the discipline of print training to focus on what mattered and what didn’t; it’s lost an editorial genius who could look at an existing structure and then smash it up and reshape it in a blaze of light-bulb moments. Just as a small example of that latter point, I remember Jeremy insisting during that lunch that the new Top Gear should not worry about being the first to drive a new car, even if it were the Ferrari Enzo. To me, as a producer, this logic was madness, because being first meant being exclusive, but he said: “No, think about it. To be first with a new car, you have to go on the car launch, drive it abroad in left-hand drive, three or four months before it goes on sale, and it means nothing to a punter at home. Let’s wait. Let’s film a car when it’s actually on sale here, posters on the high street, in the showroom window, so that what we’re doing actually means something to viewers.” I still thought he was talking absolute bollocks, but I couldn’t have been more wrong – in the end, we didn’t lose a single viewer because we were two years later than everybody else with our Enzo film.

All we needed now was a name for our new Top Gear, and, after a few more drinks, we decided on “New Top Gear”. With that sorted, we went and pitched our idea to Jane, the BBC2 controller who, after a few minutes suffering our babbling stream of consciousness, told us to get out of her office and get on with making it. It’ll hopefully become apparent as you read on, but there’s no doubt in my mind this show wouldn’t have existed without Jane. She gave us the freedom to cock up and try again, she pushed us when we were timid, and she had real TV nous. I remember, for instance, sitting in an early meeting with her and some BBC execs, discussing what sort of stories this new Top Gear would film, and I mentioned an item Jeremy and I had once made on old Top Gear about Siamese Banger Racing, where the drivers race in two cars chained together.

Naturally, being a BBC meeting, somebody then erupted at me for having said “Siamese”, and as I was busy trying to work out how we could announce: “On tonight’s show, Conjoined Banger Racing”, Jane called everyone to order and said the point was we should forget about reporting on other people’s car events. “Make your own world,” was her advice, which when you think about it, was precisely what we
ended up doing – James, Jeremy and Richard lived in their little juvenile bubble, just doing their thing. But I digress. Back then, in 2002, the first job was to fnd some new presenters, so we rented a small studio in Acton and started to screen test the long list of hopefuls, with the audition involving them standing next to a Renault Avantime and talking about it for a bit, and then doing some news items with Jeremy. Quite early on, a fat bloke with a Shakin’ Stevens quif called Jason Dawe walked in, cracked us up with his wit and bowled us over with his ability to make secondhand car news sound exciting.

James May then rocked up. Jeremy and I had known James for years as a motoring journalist, and he’d been hired, briefy, then fired, quickly, from old Top Gear. This audition, then, was important if he
was to get another shot at the prize. So, James, being James, took one look at the Avantime, dismissed it as marketing bollocks, scanned the news stories he was supposed to go through with Jeremy, threw them to one side and proceeded to tell us how his old Rolls-Royce was costing him so much in fuel he’d had to take up Sainsbury’s offer of cheap petrol with every £200 shop, and consequently he was now a bachelor with a fridge full of rotting lettuce. Then he left, leaving some bemused BBC execs staring into the middle distance.

Back in our tiny office at the BBC, the amount of VHS tapes sent in by would-be presenters had now reached the ceiling. We got them from car dealers, students who’d run out of daytime telly to watch, classic-car nerds with real-ale beards, even lingerie models who’d blown their life savings in tanning booths. My favourite, though, was of a spirited chap whose flm consisted solely of him trying to do handbrake turns on an industrial estate in his 3-Series. He never said one word, and, from memory, he never actually managed a handbrake turn.

Then, on day one thousand and six million, a producer called Kate Shiers walked into the tiny office brandishing yet another VHS tape and said the guy on it was worth a look. He was small, energetic and doing a terrible car review while dressed for some reason as Batman...but Kate was right, there was something about the chap, so Richard Hammond was invited to come in.

On the day, he turned up in a bad shirt and waffled some old nonsense about the Avantime, then trotted through the news bits OK, but there was nothing that lived up to the promise of his tape. Then, as the audition wound up, he started to talk about his woefully unsuccessful career as a radio DJ, with the highlight being his late-night spot on Radio Cumbria, reading out the names of lambs that were up for adoption. By the end of this tragic anecdote, Jeremy, and everybody else in the room, was crying with laughter. It takes some balls to come into a hotly contested audition and roll the dice on tales of your failures, but it was the right move because self-deprecation, although we didn’t know it at the time, was going to play a big part in Top Gear’s humour.

With the auditions complete, it was time to choose. All of us were in agreement we wanted the funny little failed radio DJ, but, beyond that, it was a world of arguments. The plump car dealer, Jason, was a front runner, Jeremy was campaigning for James, but the BBC grown-ups were adamant a woman should be in the line-up. Now, I’m a big, big fan of the Beeb, but, my God, do they stretch your patience when they start “applying their marketing logic”, or to use another word, meddling. Their theory behind a female presenter was that if you want women to watch something, you need women presenting it. I pointed out many times that I was an avid viewer of What Not to Wear despite Jimmy Nail not featuring in the line-up, but my protest fell on deaf ears. The problem was that most of the grown-ups in the BBC management didn’t care about the car world, and basically there’s this weird logic whereby the less their interest is in the subject, the greater their compulsion becomes to meddle.

As it happens, we’d auditioned lots of excellent girls who were more than up to the job of presenting a car show, but Jeremy and I had already started to realise that bloke banter was going to become an important part of the show – not macho, stag-night banter, just ordinary-bloke banter that would involve a journey into that massive black hole that is the male brain.

We were never claiming that an all-male line-up would give us a superior dynamic to a boy/girl set-up, it was just what we were after. And so, hearts in mouths, with warnings from her underlings of the terrible fury that would be visited upon us, Jeremy and I went to see Jane Root to tell her we didn’t want a girl. She looked at us for a moment as we braced ourselves, then said: “Fine, do what you think’s best. I’m not fussed either way.” What we’d just experienced was a classic case of BBC management playing their favourite game of Second Guess The Person In The Bigger Office.

With Gendergate sorted, we were then free to fonalise the line-up, or so we thought, but the BBC Meddling Dept wasn’t quite fnished. Jeremy was campaigning for James to get the gig, but we were told a trio of Jeremy, James and Richard was a bit too “three middle-class public-schoolish type blokes of a similar age”. “And?” we replied. “Well, it’s all a bit cheese and cheese, as opposed to chalk and cheese,” came the response. We then argued Trinny and Susannah were cheese and cheese, the Two Fat Ladies were cheese and cheese, and so on, but eventually, after much cheese-related arguing, we lost, and cheesy James was kicked into touch in favour of chalky Jason Dawe, who I recall was fairly middle-class and of a similar age.

Our line-up problems were not quite over though. We still needed a real ace driver, with a racing background, and Tif Needell was not an option because the Beeb wanted a new-look Top Gear. And if we had a racing driver, he would, like Tif, have to present films, but a) there weren’t enough films in the hour to go round and b) apart from the odd ones such as Tif and Jason Plato, racing drivers aren’t known for their camera charisma. One evening, I was wrestling with this problem in the office, trying all sorts of presenter permutations on our massive whiteboard until it looked like a scene from The Theory of Everything. Then Jeremy rocked up. “You know what, I can now actually do the slidey tail-out driving like Tif did on old Top Gear,” he said. “But what I can’t do is precise laps, the kiss-the-apex stuff we need to get the lap times for the board. We still need a racing driver for that.”

“Yeah, but then we still need a racing driver, who then needs to be able to speak, and we’re back where we started,” I replied. A minute or two later, one of Jeremy’s light bulbs lit up: “Hang on, why does he need to speak?” he said. “He could just be a bloke, in a suit and helmet, and he does the lap times and he never speaks… and we never even have to see him, or know who he is! He’ll be like a thing on the show!” Clarkson was by now very excited. “He could be like The Gimp in Pulp Fiction; we could call him The Gimp!”, he exclaimed.

And, thus, The Gimp was born. All we needed now was a racing driver to fill the role, preferably someone who was discreet, a shrinking violet who didn’t like to talk too much, and so, for reasons I still don’t understand, we chose Perry McCarthy, the only man whose mouth works faster than most of the cars he’s driven. Perry also told us exactly where we could stick our notion of calling him The Gimp, so we settled on The Stig.

With the line-up now complete, it was time to flm a pilot, which is a sort-of dress rehearsal where you iron out your mistakes. Full of ambition and good cheer, we had a set built that looked like the core reactor on the Death Star, and only a tiny bit smaller and somehow crammed it into the hangar we’d hired. Then, when the lighting technician said, “How many lights would you like?”, we replied, “Er… give us lots,” which he did. Next, we stufed in an audience of several hundred, shut the doors on our metal hangar, switched on all the lights, and began flming our frst show… in the middle of July.

I can’t remember exactly when, but it wasn’t long before people started fainting, and, two hours in, most of the audience was in a coma. Our guest, David Ginola, not an unft man, just sat glumly in a lake of his own sweat, silently praying for death as we watched Jason, who by now resembled a bucket of water wearing a shirt, go gamely for his 18th stab at recording Used Car News. The recording was supposed to take a few hours but, what felt like three days later, we fnally wrapped and edited together the results, which were, well, abysmal.

Jane Root watched it silently as we edged nearer the window ledge of her sixth-foor ofce, and then she said: “Guys, just relax. I expected to see camera cables in shot and people walking about with cups of tea.” Taking her advice very literally, we then shot a second pilot, which was so relaxed the presenters started performing before the cameras were even switched on. And when they finally were fired up, the place was in such anarchy they couldn’t actually pick out the presenters in among the crowd.

I remember Jason demonstrating the build quality on a car and, in his enthusiasm, breaking the centre console of it, which we couldn’t film anyway because the camera lens was blocked by a man in a Subaru T-shirt. At this point, Brian the Director stormed out of his special truck and told me he’d never seen such a shambles in 20 years of making top television. But, in truth, there was no time for tantrums and tears, because October 2002 was fast approaching, and in a matter of days we’d be going on air for real…

[pavproch]

prvně v životě čumím na topgear - z donucení, sedím v newcastlu na hotelu a nemám co dělat - na BBC three de zrovna díl, ve kterém se ten kudrnatý starší vyšší rozplývá nad hnissanem GT-R...jo a není mi vůbec jasné, co se vám na těch jejich přiblblých plkách (navíc ještě většinou vůbec ne o autech... 30 záběrů on board s rozumnými komentáři o jízdě a autě, které řídí následuje 10minut plků o ničem ve studiu) a reakcích publika "napovel" líbí...

Pořad, kde automobily sloužily jako pouhé rekvizity pro často mimořádně přihlouplá a dětinská čísla těchto tří zoufalců skončil. Žádná škoda. Nebylo to odborné, nebylo to zábavné. Tedy někdy možná bylo, pokud jste mentálně uvázli v páté třídě ZŠ. Což jak se zdá se týká většiny populace, která je zdebilizovaná do míry nevídané. Holt debilům se snad vládne, že?

BINGO!

Ježyš, já su tak ráth, že nejsem sám s tak ostře negativisticky vyhraněným názorem na pořad jménem TG
a jeho protagonisty.... naštěstí už je po ňom.... R.I.P.

[PetrL]

No a co? Se z toho máme posr....?
Tohle je téma pro fanoušky TG, takže fakt nechápu proč se tu musíš takto vyjadřovat a ztrapňovat se.

[pavproch]

obávám se, že přesně takle bouřlivou reakci sem čekal.... jak jim/vám někdo šáhne na idol a modlu, tak je hned vyvrhel společnosti.... nonic no, sem chtěl jen poukázat že je nás vyvrhelů povícero....

EDIT: při obědě sa mi to ešče roz/proleželo v hlavě, tak to vysvětlím trochu podrobněji... přestože/protože se považuju za nadšence do aut, docela mě udivovalo, že sem jediný, kdo ty blbé plky TG nesnesl a už sem si začínal myslet, že sem nějaký divný.. a proto mě potěšilo, že se nás tady na AF.cz najde víc... a musel sem se stím svým potěšeením podělit...

[oxik]

pp: Já tě chápu, pro tech. nadšence není TG ničím zajímavým.. 10% pořadu tvoří informace, které dávno všichni ví, 10% zajímavosti a zbytek jsou vtípky a zábava, která nesedne každýmu.. obzvlášť v podání Clarksona, kterýho buď lidi milujou nebo nesnáší. Ačkoli knížky nečtu, dostal jsem od přítelkyně http://www.databazeknih.cz/knihy/na-plny-plyn-89783 a super počteníčko. Mě se jeho humor líbí, krásně v té knížce vystihuje problémy společenské, politické,.. vztažené na auta a to mě prostě baví.

naštěstí už je po ňom.... R.I.P.

.. tohle mi ale přijde, že máš vyloženě radost z toho, že skončilo něco, co se hoodně lidem líbilo, aniž by tě to nějak obtěžovalo - nikdo tě nenutil sledovat další díly Proto zase chápu komentář PetrL..